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Post by kaiju » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:37 pm

I liked the film, although i think everyone in the rom knew it was all in his head. Which is a shame because i found the ida that these hooded creatures were on the streets burning people more disturbing an idea.
But the kitchen jump was the best of the fest. and it was very atmospheric.

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Post by kaiju » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:47 pm

Also like to say i thought the little girl was really good in the film, No one seemed to be talking to her about the film so we went up and had a chat to her. Very smart sweet girl.We got her autograph which pleased her mum loads(i think the frightfesters were neglecting her quite frankly.)
For me she stood out in the film(literally in that sparkling dress), but she was his one ray of hope in the film it seemed, and she didnt have the same cockernee miserable traits that most of the other characters exhibited.She also didnt come across as a small chld mindlessly reading lines from a page,she actually acted. I personally wish her all the best.

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Re: heartless

Post by Tommy-Boy » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:08 pm

kaiju wrote:Also like to say i thought the little girl was really good in the film, No one seemed to be talking to her about the film so we went up and had a chat to her. Very smart sweet girl.We got her autograph which pleased her mum loads(i think the frightfesters were neglecting her quite frankly.)
For me she stood out in the film(literally in that sparkling dress), but she was his one ray of hope in the film it seemed, and she didnt have the same cockernee miserable traits that most of the other characters exhibited.She also didnt come across as a small chld mindlessly reading lines from a page,she actually acted. I personally wish her all the best.
Hear Hear - I did think it was quite bad that she was ignored and not allowed up on stage whilst we had to put up with Noel Clarke dicking around on his phone . I'm sorry but I found his behaviour irritating and quite disrespectful to the audience.

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Post by Satans Puppy » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:14 pm

I didn't see the girly girl... :( in fact I missed a few people in my book.

It was another case of "Catch them outside, they'll be signing near the press wall" so out I went to wait and there was nothing but confusion :(

Got the main bloke though but missed the dr who bloke :( Wahhhhhh

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Post by Hello Doris! » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:35 pm

Tommy-Boy wrote:
kaiju wrote:Also like to say i thought the little girl was really good in the film, No one seemed to be talking to her about the film so we went up and had a chat to her. Very smart sweet girl.We got her autograph which pleased her mum loads(i think the frightfesters were neglecting her quite frankly.)
For me she stood out in the film(literally in that sparkling dress), but she was his one ray of hope in the film it seemed, and she didnt have the same cockernee miserable traits that most of the other characters exhibited.She also didnt come across as a small chld mindlessly reading lines from a page,she actually acted. I personally wish her all the best.
Hear Hear - I did think it was quite bad that she was ignored and not allowed up on stage whilst we had to put up with Noel Clarke dicking around on his phone . I'm sorry but I found his behaviour irritating and quite disrespectful to the audience.
Agree with you both, I saw her and wanted to say hello and well done. But thought it may come across creepy especially with Mr O on my arm.
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Post by feggie » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:13 pm

puppy she was stood at the end of your row at the end of the film!

the film sat at fairly mediocre for me. Not really orignal, it seemed to have stolen ideas from various films.

Good
- the little girl and eddie marsan were great
- i did like the fiery deaths(quite well shot and fairly grisly) and the screams of the .........

Bad
- over hyped and it didn't feel to original at all.
- a little on the dull side
- Jim Sturgess' performance. One second he is socially awkward the next he is having cocktails with the guy next door.
- the soundtrack, too samey. don't think we needed the plot sang at us 2 minutes after it happens.
- the delusions of grandeur.

The film is ok but thinks too much of itself. I will watch it again but I don't expect much for the next time. Noel Clarke and the director came off as a little on the arrogant side.

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Post by **suzy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:42 pm

This film knocked me for 6, it was amazing. I thought it was going to be some kind of take on all the knife crime and yobs we have now a days but when Jamie mets Daddy P, everything just went mental. 10 out of 10 in my book.
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Post by AdeBrown » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:33 pm

AnotherSchmuck wrote:In the Q+A after the film the Director reaffirmed the twatty "new genre" comments.
AdeBrown wrote:Aren't the comments here those of the producer before the film?

I did not stay for the Q&A, just in case it was a list of films that producer should watch.
:roll:

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Post by The Soapmaker » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:51 pm

AdeBrown wrote:
AnotherSchmuck wrote:In the Q+A after the film the Director reaffirmed the twatty "new genre" comments.
:roll:

Did people laugh?
A few did, a few of us muttered "is it fuck"..... it was one of those moments of hesitation when you're not sure if someone's joking or not.

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Post by AdeBrown » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:16 pm

It reminded me in parts of a diluted Clive Barker, with some of Angel Heart mashed with Lock Stock And Kidulthood. The port wine stain psychology was much better handled in Dread. To paraphrase Chekhov, if you are going to show a man with a razor claw hand in Act 1, you are bound to use him in the final Act. Shoreditch is not as scary as last year's Elephant & Castle (that estate from The Disappeared is now almost 95% empty by the way).
Yet, over all I liked Heartless.

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Post by Wolfshade » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:10 pm

I agree with the comments about the film trying to encompass too many storylines - it seems to want to be thriller, horror, romance, fantasy, gangland story, "pack with the devil" story, abused misfit documentary, story of inner beauty over outward appearance, blah blah blah....but it didn't fulfil any of these areas adequately enough and just came across like a bunch of random ideas carelessly thrown together.

Also yes, it really did milk the cockney family from the rough east end thing way too far.

So definitely not the movie for me....although I have to say, the scene where the guys's in the bathroom, and he thinks his girlfriend is outside and opens the door and there's a snarling demon there was probably the most shocking moment of the whole festival. Just a shame the rest of the film wasn't as good.

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Post by streetrw » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:57 pm

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Post by orlovsky » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:27 pm

Wolfshade wrote: So definitely not the movie for me....although I have to say, the scene where the guys's in the bathroom, and he thinks his girlfriend is outside and opens the door and there's a snarling demon there was probably the most shocking moment of the whole festival. Just a shame the rest of the film wasn't as good.
You mean the exact same scene that's in An American Werewolf in London, but sans snarling?

I can see that some people really did enjoy this film, but to me it felt like an extended ITV crime drama.
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Post by Wolfshade » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:49 pm

orlovsky wrote:
Wolfshade wrote: So definitely not the movie for me....although I have to say, the scene where the guys's in the bathroom, and he thinks his girlfriend is outside and opens the door and there's a snarling demon there was probably the most shocking moment of the whole festival. Just a shame the rest of the film wasn't as good.
You mean the exact same scene that's in An American Werewolf in London, but sans snarling?
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Hardly just An American Werewolf, there's a scene like that in countless other horror films too - getting the audience to feel calm then suddenly throwing a shock in.

It was the first time I'd seen An American Werewolf, and the scene in that didn't make me jump, but the one in Heartless did, so it was done far more effectively here imo.

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Post by orlovsky » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:55 pm

Wolfshade wrote:
Hardly just An American Werewolf, there's a scene like that in countless other horror films too - getting the audience to feel calm then suddenly throwing a shock in.

It was the first time I'd seen An American Werewolf, and the scene in that didn't make me jump, but the one in Heartless did, so it was done far more effectively here imo.
I know it's in loads of horror movies (and very over used, IMHO) but seeing as we'd seen it at least once before this weekend, I thought I'd mention that particular use of it :)

It seems to me that all of the scares in Heartless were provided solely by sudden, loud noises, but this could just be due to the mahoosive subwoofer they have in the empire. :D
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