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Post by ghouldrool » Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:11 pm

Nice to see Axelle Carolyn getting some long overdue onstage presence at FF.

Strange 3D style opening credits. Handsome looking clip promising quite a ride. If its one thing Marshall can deliver is a strong concept - despite how an individual might perceive the end resulting film.

Such a shame there was no way to have it begin with the letter D
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Post by Satans Puppy » Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:19 pm

Loved the clip... Wasn't too keen on the dialogue though. But DING... action, top notch!

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Post by ghouldrool » Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:23 pm

actually puppy i had a whole passage typed lamenting the dialogue - particularly the "arsehole of the world" bit. However that might have kicked me off on the whole "sorry to piss on your chips" bit in doomsday. urgh
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Post by The Dug » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:31 pm

ghouldrool wrote:actually puppy i had a whole passage typed lamenting the dialogue - particularly the "arsehole of the world" bit. urgh
That was the bit of dialogue that done it for me. I wasn't expecting 100% historically accurate speech, but that part pulled me out of a film that otherwise could be an enjoyable romp. It prompted me to correct Neil Marshall afterwards when he he had said that it was bollocks that the Pictish people would have spoken a language closer to ancient Welsh, but this is fact. Indeed the Pictish language would be closer to Welsh than any other Celtic language.

The filmakers have chosen Scottish Gaelic - but without getting too technical this is far from being close. The Picts and the Gaels were/are two very different tribes from the same land. But because of Marshall's ignorant dismissal of a question put forward by one of the audience, coupled with the 'arsehole of the world' dialogue i felt as if i should correct him.

This might read as being anti Marshall, but it's not. I've enjoyed two of his films very much, but felt he came across as trying to be a wee bit smarter than he is. Especially after the clunky dialogue we heard in the footage shown.

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Post by Satans Puppy » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:50 pm

ghouldrool wrote:actually puppy i had a whole passage typed lamenting the dialogue - particularly the "arsehole of the world" bit. However that might have kicked me off on the whole "sorry to piss on your chips" bit in doomsday. urgh
That was the line that did it for me but I think I put "Arse End" in my chris and phil write up... DOH!!! :)

But still the action pulled ya right back in :D
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Post by PeterPan » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:59 am

Well I loved 'Dog Soldiers' and 'The Descent' but I've found Marshall to be condescending, in person and during the Q&A.
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Post by The Dug » Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:43 am

PeterPan wrote:Well I loved 'Dog Soldiers' and 'The Descent' but I've found Marshall to be condescending, in person and during the Q&A.
Exactly mate, i concur on both counts regarding his films and his manner.

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Post by daveroughcut » Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:12 am

The Dug wrote:
ghouldrool wrote:actually puppy i had a whole passage typed lamenting the dialogue - particularly the "arsehole of the world" bit. urgh
That was the bit of dialogue that done it for me. I wasn't expecting 100% historically accurate speech, but that part pulled me out of a film that otherwise could be an enjoyable romp. It prompted me to correct Neil Marshall afterwards when he he had said that it was bollocks that the Pictish people would have spoken a language closer to ancient Welsh, but this is fact. Indeed the Pictish language would be closer to Welsh than any other Celtic language.

The filmakers have chosen Scottish Gaelic - but without getting too technical this is far from being close. The Picts and the Gaels were/are two very different tribes from the same land. But because of Marshall's ignorant dismissal of a question put forward by one of the audience, coupled with the 'arsehole of the world' dialogue i felt as if i should correct him.

This might read as being anti Marshall, but it's not. I've enjoyed two of his films very much, but felt he came across as trying to be a wee bit smarter than he is. Especially after the clunky dialogue we heard in the footage shown.

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I think he meant "bolloks" as in it would've sounded rubbish, all that gob running down that camera lens and such. It's a modern action film set in Roman times and it won't be any more inaccurate that the astonishingly inacurrate, and hated by this Scotsman alone, Braveheart. Being from Glasgow I loved the arsehole of the world line after all he is talking about the Borders. Wasn't brave enough to ask him where St. Andrews Hospital from Doomsday is is though!

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Post by Satans Puppy » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:29 am

Yeah but you think pandorum is an oscar winner... :P

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Post by The Dug » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:50 pm

daveroughcut wrote:
I think he meant "bolloks" as in it would've sounded rubbish, all that gob running down that camera lens and such. It's a modern action film set in Roman times and it won't be any more inaccurate that the astonishingly inacurrate, and hated by this Scotsman alone, Braveheart. Being from Glasgow I loved the arsehole of the world line after all he is talking about the Borders. Wasn't brave enough to ask him where St. Andrews Hospital from Doomsday is is though!
Dave reading your post makes me think that you have the opinion that I'm upset by Marshall not being accurate, i'm not at all. Although I don't know what 'Braveheart' has to do with it?

The first thing i mentioned in my original post is that i didn't expect anything historically accurate. The reason i mention the languages was because as Peter Pan says Marshall came acoss as being a bit condescending and dismissive with his (bollocks) answer. If he hadn't been as 'smart' with his answer then i wouldn't have said a thing, but there is nothing wrong in clearing up peoples misconceptions and short sightedness.

But as i've said before i realise it is only a film and should be taken as such. Entertainment is all it is, but when filmakers have the opportunity, and a great opportunity at that, to stand before people and take questions and answers you can at the very least come across as being more courteous and mannerly in my opinion.

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Post by daveroughcut » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:22 pm

Satans Puppy wrote:Yeah but you think pandorum is an oscar winner... :P

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No that's the other one. I'm the Random Elements one though i do like PANDORUM too.
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Post by daveroughcut » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:25 pm

The Dug wrote:
daveroughcut wrote:
I think he meant "bolloks" as in it would've sounded rubbish, all that gob running down that camera lens and such. It's a modern action film set in Roman times and it won't be any more inaccurate that the astonishingly inacurrate, and hated by this Scotsman alone, Braveheart. Being from Glasgow I loved the arsehole of the world line after all he is talking about the Borders. Wasn't brave enough to ask him where St. Andrews Hospital from Doomsday is is though!
Dave reading your post makes me think that you have the opinion that I'm upset by Marshall not being accurate, i'm not at all. Although I don't know what 'Braveheart' has to do with it?

The first thing i mentioned in my original post is that i didn't expect anything historically accurate. The reason i mention the languages was because as Peter Pan says Marshall came acoss as being a bit condescending and dismissive with his (bollocks) answer. If he hadn't been as 'smart' with his answer then i wouldn't have said a thing, but there is nothing wrong in clearing up peoples misconceptions and short sightedness.

But as i've said before i realise it is only a film and should be taken as such. Entertainment is all it is, but when filmakers have the opportunity, and a great opportunity at that, to stand before people and take questions and answers you can at the very least come across as being more courteous and mannerly in my opinion.

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Not at all mate. I mention Braveheart cause its historical/Scottish based.

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Post by PeterPan » Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:06 am

The Dug wrote:
PeterPan wrote:Well I loved 'Dog Soldiers' and 'The Descent' but I've found Marshall to be condescending, in person and during the Q&A.
Exactly mate, i concur on both counts regarding his films and his manner.

I met you earlier in the day Peter. I asked if you knew Sheridan/Zappa Fan, but he comes from Cardiff and you're Swansea i believe. I told you i didn't post on the forums, but occasionaly lurk :) . Well here i am posting :D

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Post by PeterPan » Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:10 am

daveroughcut wrote: I think he meant "bolloks" as in it would've sounded rubbish, all that gob running down that camera lens and such.
Really have you heard ancient Welsh? As for gob running down the camera, the caricatures seen on TV, not particularly accurate. It's actually on the whole a soft language when spoken by a native. 8)
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